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    • CommentAuthormyrtle*
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
     
    Hi Everyone,
    I chose the title of this thread based on a news report I saw on CNN last night about the shootings in Orlando. The reporter explained something I did not know - that gay bars were more than just bars to members of the LGBT community; they represented safe spaces where people could go to be themselves without having to explain anything. Our group obviously does not face the identical challenges of that group but I think the idea of the safe space applies to this website, for this is a place where we do not have to explain ourselves, can say just about anything, and can be assured that others will understand us.

    On another thread, marche made an interesting point about anonymity. For many of us, part of the safety of this space is the anonymity offered by the choice of using a screen name. This allows us to spill our guts without worrying about what our families, friends, and acquaintances may think. There seems to be a spectrum of transparency. Some have chosen to reveal their true identities, while others have not. And there are some who reveal enough information so that anyone who knows them can figure out who they are.

    I find that using a screen name allows me to be more open about what I can say here. Nevertheless, I know that anyone who really knows me could identify me here, for people are recognizable not just by their names but by their stories. I'd be interested in hearing others' views of this subject.
    • CommentAuthorRSA*
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
     
    I use a pseudonym here, but I've pointed to other writing I've done, so I don't have any real anonymity, in case someone wanted to find out who I am. I've written elsewhere without using my real name or any obvious clues about myself, but as you say we all have our own stories, and anyone who knows us well would be able to tell.

    I do think about what I say and how it might affect others' opinions of me. Ordinarily I wouldn't worry too much about that, but of course none of us here really lead ordinary lives. My online social connections are important to me. I don't try to hide what I think, but there's always the chance of being misunderstood, so I try to be careful.
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      CommentAuthormary75*
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2016
     
    It is a concern. I've certainly spill my guts out about my husband's ex -wife and the stepchildren. None of it came back to bite me, though. Perhaps because the responses were supportive of me and damning of them it acted as a deterrent? Or maybe the family was too busy emptying Daddy's bank accounts and didn't have time? Anyway, the nightmare is finally over, but, as Wolf so eloquently states, the trauma leaves scars.
    We do have the option of going back and editing out what we feel might harm us.
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      CommentAuthormary75*
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2016 edited
     
    I need to add that without being able to tell it like it was, and without the supportive feedback I got from particularly Divvi and Mary (Red) and so many other others too many to list, who, with expertise, wisdom and caring —got me through it. It was a safe place for me.
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    Hi Mary, and all,

    Just want to say that this website has been so incredibly helpful to me, too. Not a fantastic day today or yesterday ... have had a few glasses of wine (but I found from other seniors in the building that it 'takes the edge off').

    This site, and the relationships formed, have been such a help. Can't yet always 'tell it like it is', but through others experiences, know that I am not alone.
    There is so much, as you say, Mary, 'expertise, wisdom and caring'.

    Elizabeth, you are a hero in that you say it as it is - so many of us experience almost exactly what you are feeling. God love you for being so open and sharing with us (too many glasses of wine!).

    Margaret
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    I just try not to post anything on the forums that I would not say to anyone's face if we were sitting on the porch having a cup of coffee together. I don't really believe in online relationships, but this forum is the one exception that proves the rule. It has honestly been the one thing that has gotten me through the devastation of the past few years. I don't remember what my first post was, but I believe it was Divvi who responded first with wisdom and kindness...and the wisdom, kindness, and common sense from this group just kept rolling on. There are three or four on here that I probably could identify in "real life" if I wanted to, but I would not dream of encroaching on their privacy without asking permission first. Mim and I have gotten together in "real life"...we live minutes apart...and I have to say that I felt from day one having coffee at Panera that I had found a friend. I will let her tell her own story, of course, but I have to say that her grace and courage under daunting circumstances are an inspiration and an example for us all.

    It is my goal these days to try and help others through the fires, as others have helped me. And yes, (this is for you, Margaret)--a glass of wine can be very helpful! I also recommend chocolate--for medicinal purposes only, of course. : D

    In terms of privacy, I guess the only thing that would bother me would be if someone went back to my old posts of a couple years ago and saw the very personal things I posted about Larry's incontinence, inappropriate behavior, etc. I feel that that could infringe on the dignity of his memory. But I don't think that is likely to happen, so I don't really worry about it. Maybe after his death I should have continued to call him "DH" instead of his real name, but I just feel it is more respectful and cherishes his memory to call him "Larry." It's not like I'm posting his surname and social security number, and there are a lot of "Larrys" out there.
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    Elizabeth,
    I also posted so much information on Rene, and he was a very, very private person. When I posted all those things I was looking for guidance and help, and I got a lot of it. I loved him, and still do, with all my heart, and would not want to hurt him or his memory either. My doctor said ‘abuse in nursing homes in nothing new’. That is appalling to me.

    Anyway, off the wine for sure – just needed that yesterday. The weather is so beautiful here in London in the past few days – have to begin walking in the beautiful park close-by.
    • CommentAuthormyrtle*
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2016 edited
     
    In the late 1980s, a column in the “Lifestyle” section of our local newspaper described a couple in a restaurant eating in silence. The columnist questioned what kind of a sad, empty marriage this couple must have had if they could not carry on even a basic conversation with each other. A few weeks later, the paper printed a long piece that had been submitted by a reader in response to that column. Nowadays, it's common for people to share their personal stories but then it was not, so the piece was published anonymously to protect the privacy of the writer.

    The writer said that she and her husband might have been the couple described by the columnist, for they went out to eat many times and rarely spoke. She explained that her husband was unable to carry on a conversation because he had Alzheimer’s disease. She recounted the history of their long happy marriage and the fun and adventures they had shared together and with their children. She described her husband’s intelligence, his quiet wit, his interest in hearing what others had to say, and his uncanny ability to choose the perfect word to sum up a situation. She said all that was gone now, for the man struggled with even basic vocabulary. She explained what was known about Alzheimer's (it was not as commonly known by the public as it is today) and how it affected people and changed their lives.

    I was stunned. The writer was describing my family! I immediately called one of my sisters and read the piece to her. After picking herself up off the floor, she agreed - our mother was the author of this article. Although I was tempted to say, Mom! How could you?” I calmed myself down and called her to congratulate her for telling a truthful story and being a published author. No one ever mentioned this to me but I suppose my parents’ contemporaries might have recognized our family in the piece.
    • CommentAuthorWolf
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2016
     
    Good story Myrtle. How many sisters do you have?
    • CommentAuthormyrtle*
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2016
     
    There are four of us. I am the oldest.
    • CommentAuthorWolf
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2016
     
    I remember now you saying you were the oldest. I have just the one sister. I wonder how our outlook about life is affected by things like that?
    • CommentAuthorWolf
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2016
     
    I need a safe place because I could be in serious trouble. That is if I was expected to do anything. I've been in trouble before like the time I mooned that double decker Amtrack train on a company teambuilding expedition down the Colorado river and was informed in no uncertain terms the next morning in the breakfast lineup that I was no longer in the running for the promotion I had applied for.

    Well then. That wasn't as exciting as the time I got up to get a drink from the cottage and found a big black bear between me and the cottage. "Now what?" I remember thinking hoping to not pee myself. He didn't even look at me and instead meandered off around the cottage which I immediately ran into panting with the door shut behind me. Dianne looked up from her magazine wondering what the heck I was doing now which we got out of the way in a hurry. "Bear." "Where?" "There." I pointed through the very solid looking walls to the side of the cottage Smokey went around.

    That wasn't as scary as the time I blanked out on stage in front of some 500 people in the middle of a speech and had the strangest dream. In it I found myself in front of a room full of people staring at me and I'll never forget that second I realized it wasn't a nightmare. I was really here and all those people were really there and they really were staring at me because I was supposed to be doing something. The hairs on the back of my neck stood straight out and the hairs on the back of my hairs stood straight out too because that was a shock and a half.

    Even that wasn't as scary as being partially crucified as it came to be known. We were playing guns down the back lane and I jumped over a fence and knew right away something was terribly wrong. I looked down and saw a nail coming out through my sneaker and by deductive reasoning also through my foot. My friends helped me hobble back up the lane and into our backyard, the short board firmly attached to the bottom of my shoe. When my mother came out because of the yelling, she began screaming until we pulled that board off of my foot when it was my turn. I've always had a special affinity with the crucifixes I see after that. It hurts. I know.

    That wasn't the scariest thing in my life. Neither were the months of police protection 24 hours because an x employee threatened to kill me. Neither was that night on Lake Huron in the Contessa 32 with three people huddled in the cabin refusing to come out while the skipper and I fought 9 foot waves all night during the week I was taking sailing lessons. When we finally struggled into Southampton, the police were there because we had been declared missing. We had to divert for hours towards Lake Superior riding up and down the water mountains so we could angle back or we would have been broadsided right away and the entire coast we would have ended up on was virtually uninhabited and lined with jagged rocks on a very black night. When I put up the storm sail, the entire front of the boat went under the water regularly where I had to hang on to the boat, the sail, and the line. I couldn't take too long either because working that tiller up and down those water mountains wore you out and the skipper and I had to alternate regularly and switch sides. One big mistake hour after hour after hour and there would almost certainly have been deaths.

    That wasn't the scariest thing either. Nor was when I finally went back to the class where I thought the professor was retarded and knew I had to work now to catch up and when I sat down they handed out the midterm exams instead. I actually lived that dream in Ferris Bueller. I looked it over but there was no chance so I walked out a second time.
    • CommentAuthorWolf
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2016
     
    -2

    I made up for that when I was taken into custody after the third class at the York business graduating course which everyone in business had to take. I broke the university's mainframe computer system by reading the manual they gave us and recreating it on a Lotus 123 spreadsheet. That was in 1983 when I went there for a degree. I did hundreds of scenarios and formed a curve to see if there was a sweet spot and there was. It took me two classes of the thirteen week class to bankrupt all the competitors except one. At the beginning of that third class there were a lot of university staff types at the podium of the fairly large amiptheatre. There was some buzz wondering what was going on. Someone in a suit came to the microphone and asked "Is Wolf Krause here?" I stood up while everyone looked at me and he announced there were no more classes and this one was over and quite tersely motioned for me to come along with them. I told them what I did which was read their manual to build a working model. I got an A.

    No, the scariest thing I ever did see was when my big sister was really mad at me. She was a throwback to our Viking heritage, healthy as a horse and could easily outwork one. She had a disposition that would have made Lucy in the cartoon Peanuts run away from screaming. She could make a face that made the Exorcist look tame and speak in tongues that could freeze your soul. She could suck all the air out of a room and make everyone dance like puppets to her bidding. I never saw anyone take her but I did see her step in when her boyfriend was getting beaten up behind the high school by some local thugs and she punched and kicked the crap out of them. That became legend in local lore. When I went to a 25 year public school reunion with all the local guys I grew up with, that story came up still with an aura of awe that night a girl beat up the local thugs. Yah. I know. I made it out alive. Just.

    Now I look into the mirror at the old man looking back at me and I want to lift his jowls into a forced smile like in the movie where the little kid pulls the skin up far enough to recognize him. "Oh there you are, Peter!" he says. It makes me think of the opening scene of Risky Business, where Tom Cruise starts it saying "The dream is always the same." Maybe the complete jumble Pulp Fiction was with it's incredibly odd scenes spit out in no particluar order anywhere in the film. Somehow though my life never has a Cecil B DeMille closeup moment. It just has a lot of talking gorilla's driving around the square in little cars trying to find their way out of the village and always coming back to the square. Life's like that sometimes. Or it seems to be. Who knows what life is? Not me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nistdsACs3E

    I'll take 'A Safe Place' for 400 there, Alex. Where is that by the way?
    • CommentAuthorAdmin
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2016 edited
     
    When I started this website, it was unheard of for any Alzheimer Spouse to speak the truth about what Alzheimer's Disease does to a marital relationship. I was confused, angry, and hysterical because I couldn't find ANYONE in my support group, online, on tv, in articles, who told how their spouse's personality changed, how they became strangers, about the hardships of being a caregiver to a spouse who was acting like a stranger.

    In order to get such conversations started, I felt it was imperative that everyone's privacy was protected by using screen names, and me NEVER giving out anyone's email address without their written permission. I have kept to that strict policy for nine years, and I believe that is why we have been able to engage in such honest, thought provoking discussions that you will find nowhere else on the Internet. I am very proud of having been instrumental in bringing the truth about Alzheimer's Disease and marriage out in the open. I believe that simply knowing you are not alone in your thoughts and feelings have helped so many people cope. This could not have been accomplished without anonymity.

    In the process, many of you found each other in spite of screen names, and lasting friendships have been formed, including meeting in person. Exposing your identities is up to you individually, but I will always keep these boards anonymous, so anyone can say whatever they need to say without fear of being recognized.

    As it says in the Welcome section on the home page - you have come to a safe place.

    joang*
    • CommentAuthorWolf
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2016
     
    The house that Joan built. It's an important thing you did here. I know that personally. You have my respect and my gratitude.
    • CommentAuthorRona
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2016
     
    People always ask me if I have a support group or if I meet with other people going through what we going through. I say no but I have friends that I can confide in but the best resource I have is a website for spouses of people with Alzheimer's. A place where everyone understands, a place that is safe to say or ask anything. It is truely A lifesaver while going through this journey. Thank you Joan.
    • CommentAuthorLFL
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2016
     
    Thank you Joan. When my husband was dx'd in 2008 I tried joining a support group run by the ALZ Association. When I contacted the social worker to ask questions and join the group, she advised me not to join "just yet". Her reasoning was that all the caregivers loved ones were further along in their disease than my hubby and she didn't want to me to be scared about what the future held. So I found your website; I could NEVER have made it this far on our FTD journey without the advice and caring of you and the members. I tell everyone about this site and how wonderful it is. Since joining, I've never felt the need for an in-person support group.