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    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2015
     
    I tried to look for this topic, but nothing came up so --
    As at home caregivers, how do you cook for your loved one? I mean do you continue to cook regular meals (like I have always done!), or do you snack together, or go out, or order in or whatever?
    I ask because Dan doesn't seem to care what I cook, or if I cook, just so there's something on the table at the usual supper time. He has always kind of gone by the clock & when he sees 5:30-6:00 roll around he starts asking "what are we doing for supper"? Even if we've been out & had a late lunch & he isn't really hungry, the clock says it's time to eat. I'm sorry, but I just don't want to cook a meal after having a filling late lunch (even a coffee & sweet snack) I guess I'm just no longer interested in spending so much time in the kitchen, especially when it feels like it doesn't matter anyway.

    I've always been a pretty good cook & used to enjoy it, but things have changed (understatement!) How much do I still have to do??? (Sounds like I'm tired of it, doesn't it?) ;)
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    DH was the same way. I started using frozen dinners for him. I didn't like them, but he did and I didn't have to cook if I didn't want to. Just pick your battles and make it easy on yourself.
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    Mim, I used frozen dinners also, there are some that are pretty good, cost a bit more, but better quality. I can't eat them but he could ( I have celiac disease) He always wanted food on demand so a 2-3 minute microwave dinner was good. Priorities change with this AD situation. You do what you have to to make it. Another hint, when you cook a meal, make a bit extra and fix a plate for the freezer and use later, they come in handy and are quick to fix.
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    I would have a can of soup if we had had a good filling lunch. I would make corn bread to go with it. That and maybe some ice cream later would keep him happy.
    • CommentAuthormyrtle*
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2015 edited
     
    People with Alzheimer’s need structure and meals are part of that structure. It’s not only the food - it’s the event. So I always tried to act as if the meals, especially the evening meals, were special.

    My husband was the cook in our house and he was really good at it. I never had much skill or interest in cooking, although I grew most of our vegetables and salad stuff in the garden. After he got sick, I ended up assembling meals, rather than cooking them. For example, I’d get a rotisserie chicken from Costco and serve it with fresh veggies from a farm stand or grocery store. Or I’d make a big stew, serve it with salad, and freeze the rest of it in 2-person servings.

    When taking care of him started to become more time-consuming, we’d go out to eat more, always to a casual place. Eventually, we just went to a local “joint” that had developed an older clientele for dinner and had “specials” that were actual meals, rather than just pub food. It was cheap and my husband really enjoyed going out to dinner. Two things gave me a break from the tyranny of meals. One was hiring an aide for 3 hours twice a week. She would grocery shop and cook supper. Another thing was my husband's going to day care 3 days a week, which meant I did not have to figure out lunch on those days.
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    I do cook a meal (or have leftovers) every night. I like leftovers and my husband doesn't remember what he ate so I can get away with it. Taking care of him is not real time consuming so far so this might change at some point.

    He doesn't do well going out at night since he goes to bed very early but we do go out to lunch at least once a week. He enjoys that.
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    I guess Myrtle is the one closest to my problem. My wife was always the cook in our family (except that I would cook a steak over the grill or campfire), so when I had to take over the cooking it was a real problem. I barely knew how to boil water. I found a magazine that had just started called "Cooking for Two". I figured, as a chemistry major in college, I could read directions, so that was what I did. As a result we had only fancy meals. I still don't know how to do anything simple. At first my wife helped as much as she could, but then just sat down and let me do the work. She seemed to enjoy what I served. When we moved into a retirement home and I didn't have to cook any more, the magazine folded.
    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2015 edited
     
    I like the idea of "assembling meals"!!

    I know I have to keep him fed & as nourished as I can. I guess that sometimes it just confuses me exactly how I'm supposed to do this. The schedule is completely different than it used to be & I feel like I'm trying to crowd food into a certain number of hours, whether we're hungry or not. As I said before, when the clock says it's time to eat, i's time!! He doesn't really eat lunch because he gets up so late, having breakfast at noon. Then he decides he wants to "go for a ride" (words I'm beginning to dread), which usually involves stopping somewhere for coffee & "oooh, look at all the goodies in the case"!! I suppose I should just put my foot down, but I don't want the confrontation.

    I think I'm getting off subject here.......
    • CommentAuthorWolf
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2015
     
    Mim, just do our best and also try to let it go. Allowing him some goodies and letting some of this happen is going to feel differently when you look back on it I think. At least he has this. My question is where are YOUR goodies? Isn't there anything in that case that appeals to you? Feed the slaves they work better.
    • CommentAuthorCharlotte
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2015
     
    Hb is more set on lunch than on dinner. We do get up late so breakfast (bowl of Life cereal for him) can range anywhere from 9-11. No matter how late breakfast is, lunch has to be had by 1. Often I will wait until The Young and the Restless is over, then go to the store (can usually find one or two things I need), then stop for lunch afterwards, usually at Taco Bell since we get free drinks. He only eats 2 or 3 tacos and same for me so we get out of there for $7-8. Lunch at home will consist of sandwich, bag a chips and bag of Famous Amos cookies. I pay a little extra for the small bags cause it limits how much he eats of them.

    I do buy TV dinners for him. He likes them and since he can't remember when he had them last, he would eat them every night. They are not the healthiest but he likes the Hungry Man cause he gets a brownie with it (which I think taste horrible). I am happy with a big bowl of salad. Otherwise, dinner is basic - meat, potato or beans, and veggie or salad. I have never been a fancy cook.
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    I started out trying to feed DH good healthy foods at every meal. But with work, taking care of him and everything else. And DD eating at friends houses and such. As time went by. I started being kind to myself. If I was tired, we would have peanut butter and jelly, grilled cheese, baked potatoes, scrambled eggs, soup with cheese and crackers, frozen meals. Or picking up a fast food meal. And if I was not hungry I would feed DH and eat later myself. And my DH was always happy with what ever I fixed. I remember some lunches being cheese, crackers and sliced up bananas. He loved the finger food meals.

    It's all good : ))
    • CommentAuthorxox
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2015
     
    I am so thankful for Trader Joe's. Better than fast food but they offer a lot that needs minimal cooking.
    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2015
     
    About this cooking thing --- tonight I made a little pork stir fry & rice. Pork & whatever vegetables I had lying around! :) Anyway, he pushed it around the plate a lot, I guess trying to figure out what each thing was, said it didn't have any taste. He ate most of it, but I guess I won't be trying that again. What is the point?

    Paulc, there is no Trader Joe's anywhere near me. I've been in the one where my cousin lives, but there's nothing like that around here. I wish there was -I liked it.

    Wolf, I try NOT to eat the "goodies" in the display case, but many times I buckle! If he wants it, he can have it - I don't deny him if he that what he wants. It's just that he wants supper when the clock says it's time, no matter that he just had his coffee & sweets an hour ago. Kind of aggravating for me I guess, but you're right - just let it go.

    Does anyone keep snacks around for them? I do keep cheese already cut up, there are seasoned pita chips, sometimes potato chips, pudding, etc. No matter what I have, he wants something else! Aaarrrrggggghhhh! :D
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    Dinty Moore Complete meals worked great for my guy. He had 2 or 3 that he really liked. 90 seconds in the microwave and wah-la... Dinner was served. Was great for days that I just didn't have the energy to cook.
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    Mim, I'm an oldie here on Joan's, but your question was a common one back in my day. My DH died in 2009. As many already know, most of our guys lose their ability to eat 'wet food', such as soups, certain veggies . I found that milk shakes were very well received. You can put all sorts of things in milk shakes, from eggs, to peanut butter, jams and other tasty tidbits. A solid based Tervis mug worked best for us. It had a handle and was hard to tip over.

    He preferred finger foods to more difficult to manage stews or pasta. He did enoy fruit yogurts, (he never did before) and I bought them the way I used to buy Gerber baby food. One of each flavor., twelve or more at a time. Tiny party sandwiches, pimento cheese, ham, chicken, egg salads on bread that had been cut into four squares. Grapes, strawberries, cut bananas, apple wedges, he loved them all. I had every 'to go' menu in our part of Houston. I'd call ahead and we'd take a ride to pick them up, or, luckily, many delivered to the house. Luby's Cafeteria was my favorite place. They knew me well! Unfortunately, for us, early on it became obvious that he was not comfortable eating in a strange place and often became irritated with waiters who came by the table too often for him. My task was to keep him happy and comfortable, and as others have said, routine is imperative. Keeping everything the same, no changes! The clinical psychologist who was part of the neurologist's team at Baylor Hospital was there for me 24/7. Her advice was same as I just wrote. Keep the routine, limit changes, limit large gatherings of family and friends. (Two or three at a time was fine.)
    Those last years were rather lonely for me., but I'd do it again in a nano-second. I'm sure most of you will say the same thing.
    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015
     
    Good advice Nancy B & Aunt B. I can't do much creative thinking about groceries & such right now - too close to the end of the month!! I'm running out of funds.....

    But I will surely look over all the ideas here & come up with something. I think his taste buds have changed (or are gone completely), which I guess is par for this disease. I need to readjust my thinking & planning so it won't be so stressful for myself - as long as I have something on the table at the "appointed time" & cookies, or pudding, or ice cream, etc. for him.

    Now he wants to "go for a ride" - yikes! I slept not one darn wink last night, took a nap from about 9:30 to 11:00 this morning, & I really don't feel like going out. It's cold & SNOWING here!

    Any comments are appreciated. This seems to have become a real big thing for me, but as Wolf said, I need to let that part go for my own sanity.
    • CommentAuthormyrtle*
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015 edited
     
    Hi Mim, At some point in the course of your husband's illness, you are going to reach a point where you (not he) will decide what's going to happen when. Right now, it sounds like he's bored and is trying to fill up the time with going for rides, eating, etc. The fact that the weather might not be good for taking a ride does not factor into his thinking. His demands are just going to increase as his disease progresses, so you may have to start thinking about how to take control of the situation.

    Elsewhere, you mentioned that Dan is eligible for VA health benefits. One program the VA has as part of their geriatric and extended care is called “Home and Community Based Services.” Even if you don’t think you will use these benefits now, I encourage you to talk to the liaison about what services are available and apply for the benefits now, so you will have them when you need them.

    Dan sounds a lot like my husband - always wanting to do something. Like every other spouse, I said my husband would never accept going to day care, but he ended up going for 2 years, paid for by the VA. The last year, the VA also paid for 30 visits per year from an aide. (The aide mostly served as a companion, taking him on outings and errands.) I would not have survived without these services. They gave me some relief from the constant demands that you are describing.
    • CommentAuthorElaine K
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015
     
    Mim, I think the cooking dilemma is common for most of us. My husband's day revolves around when we're going to eat our next meal. He still prepares his own breakfast (toast with butter and jelly) and I'm still letting him do that. He asks me frequently throughout the day when we're going to eat again. And often it's immediately after we have just eaten! He even sets the table for me hours before the next meal.

    I cook as I always have, very basic, supplemented with sandwiches from various places. I use leftovers whenever I can and sometimes we do go out. Eating out has become a bit problematic as DH wants to get up and serve himself coffee instead of waiting for a server. He's also very sensitive to the temperature of food and if it's too hot, he won't touch it. I usually take a container home and if it's something I've prepared at home I just leave it out for a bit and he eventually eats it.

    I've had to lock all my kitchen cabinets and pantry since my DH has tried to eat uncooked oatmeal and once consumed an entire box of chicken bouillon cubes which he promptly threw up. Last night I caught him adding sugar and half and half to a cup of lemonade he had poured for himself. So I guess I have to remember to lock up the sugar and creamer too.

    Never a dull moment with Adventures in Cooking in Dementialand!
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    It's me again!...... Y'all have brought back another memory. DH was in the hospital for the second time in 2 weeks, after hip surgery, getting over a case of mild pneumonia. He was still a bit goofy from the effects of anesthesia., but talking. He told me he needed to get out of the hospital that day because he needed to be in Geneva Switzerland the next day for a very important meeting. I pointed out that the weather was really bad and I feared most flights were canceled. "No problem", he said, "I'll just drive!" From Houston!

    I promise you that so much of the bad will just fade away with time "after". Then, like with me, more and more funny memories like the one above come back. I'm glad about that.
    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015
     
    I so appreciate all your comments - I can't tell you how much! I'm glad to have the input because I feel that I'm just not doing things right. I suppose for each of us it is (or has been) a day to day learning experience.If I do it wrong nobody will know it but me! Dan won't even remember - I have to keep reminding myself of that.

    I guess maybe the cooking part bothers me so much because I've always said that with Dan, there are two things you don't mess with - his eating & his sleep! That man could eat like a horse & was pretty easy to please so that part wasn't a problem & I enjoyed cooking. I think I'm having a hard time with the idea that now what he eats doesn't matter as much as when he eats. And if he doesn't like something (which is happening more) he's sure to let me know! I just need to relax about making dinners like I used to & keep it simple. Good TV dinners, store-bought deli items & such will do just fine sometimes - set out his place like I always do & he probably won't know if I made it myself or not!

    Myrtle, you're the third person this week to mention the VA to me. It must be a sign.....
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    Mim, speaking of VA, they have a respite program (at least here in MICH) I put my hb there a little over 2 years age for 8 days and it didn't cost anything. At that time you got 21 days free and a small charge for 9 more, 30 days in all. you might look into that for the future if you need it in case of illness or just to rest a bit.
    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015
     
    Thanks dorielMI. Does anyone know if the veteran had to be in the service during war time to qualify for these programs? Dan went in the Marines right as Korea was winding down.

    I'm kind of getting away from the cooking subject, aren't I?
    • CommentAuthormyrtle*
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015 edited
     
    No, Mim. The veteran does not have to serve during war time to be eligible for benefits. If he was on active duty he probably qualifies. (There are more restrictive rules for reservists.) The first thing you have to do is get a copy of your husband's separation papers. They show everything about his service - when he enlisted, when he was discharged, where he served, etc. If you don't already have these papers, the V.A. can tell you where get them, either online or by mail. It's not hard at all.
    • CommentAuthorCharlotte
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2015
     
    Usually the requirements for VA services are they have to have served one day in combat zone (my husband was on a ship off the coast of Nam) and there is a financial requirement.

    I talked to a guy last year at the VA in Walla Walla when we switched. He kept referring me to the Aging and long term care. Not thrilled with him at all.
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    Yes, as Charlotte said, there are financial requirements, which knocked us out of the benefits. He qualified otherwise but was just over the income limit.
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    Mim, when I talked to the VA social worker…if I remember right his name is Frank Mahaffey…he said that if Larry hooked up with VA services, there was a daycare in Boardman that the VA paid for in full. As you know, we went a different route…but I would definitely give the VA in Youngstown a call just for information. It's been a couple years since I talked to him…sorry I don't have the phone number or extension at my fingertips anymore.
    • CommentAuthorMim
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2015
     
    I have a phone number for a liaison (I guess that's what they're called) given to me by Easter Seals. I also have his military papers.

    Thanks for the advice.