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    • CommentAuthorAmber
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2014
     
    We have had many a post about how people just disappear when dementia comes into our life. I wanted to share a conversation I had with one of my good friends this weekend about this. He said the reason he didn't come and help a lot was because every time he asked me how I was doing my response was....I'm still standing....I never said I need help with...... So in his mind I had everything under control. I am a fairly strong person.

    So my lesson I learned was I shouldn't of presented such a strong front but allowed the weak areas to show and picked up the phone and actually called my friends and say I need help with...... I probably would of gotten more help from my friends. Now the family....that's a different story.
    • CommentAuthorAdmin
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2014
     
    You bring up a very good point. Dana Reeve, wife of the actor Christopher Reeve, who became a quadriplegic after a horse riding accident, wrote and spoke extensively about how to ask for help. Her most important point was - BE SPECFIC. She would make a list of everything with which she needed help. When people would call and say - if you ever need any help, let me know - she would whip out her list and try to match a task with what she knew each person was capable of doing. For example, if it was an older person, she may have asked - what day can you come over and play CD' s and listen to the music with Chris?

    If it was a strong, young person, she may have said - what evening this week can you come and help get Chris ready for bed?

    Yes, she had money to hire help, but not enough for 24/7 round the clock help for all that needed doing. She relied a lot on volunteer friends and relatives.

    So when someone asks what can they do, tell them specifically, including asking for a day and time commitment. That will quickly weed out those who truly want to help and those who don't.

    joang
    • CommentAuthorJazzy
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2014
     
    I was given this same advise from a friend who had been a caregiver sometime ago and so I made up my list and when one of our very handy son's called and said" just call if you need anything done" I whipped out my list and he said" I'll be there Friday night and on Saturday morning I will get right at it". I was elated, this was going to be just great. Now mind you this same son had told me he would come and stay with his Dad twice but that ended up in disaster as he didn't show up until after my dinner engagement was well over, but I Thought I'd try again.
    Well on Friday morning he calls and says" can't come this week end as wife has accepted an invitation to a B.B.Q tonight and a dinner with friends tomorrow night.. I am busy for the next three if four weeks but I will call you later" I was devastated. I should not have been so confident that he would come.
    Caring for their Dad wasn't on their list of things to do. They are so busy with their own lives and children that they can't find time to help here.
    They volunteer to be president of their condo association or kids hockey or to raise funds for a worthy cause but to help with a person with dementia, well I don't know what goes wrong. I asked one of our family members to help raise funds for our Alzheimer's society and they didn't have time as they were raising funds for, I'm not sure what cause. I was floored that the illness that their Dad was suffering from and maybe they will have was not important to them.
    Friends have said the same things. They are busy with fund raisers but not Alzheimer's or dementia.
    Maybe it's me but I have asked so many times that now I just don't bother anymore.
    I sometimes think I have a big sign on my head that says" I'm just joking, I really don't need any help"
    Now I do without some things to pay for cleaning service. My heart is great but my back is not.

    I do believe that we will not be given more then we can handle. It seems to be getting better each day. Last night Kevan said" you seems so much calmer lately and are getting better at all the things you now need to do."
    Greatest compliment ever.

    Hugs

    Jazzy
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    elizabeth* 9/2/14 Looking back, I would say people--including long-time friends and family-- no more want to be involved with a demented person than to fly to the moon. That's just the way it is. Even moving out-of-state to get "help" from family, the "help" was very spotty and dependent on if they had nothing else to do. And trust me, they usually had something else to do, be it children's activities or family getaways. Knowing they were leaving me isolated and stuck with DH never altered one minute of their vacation plans. Or work commitments, which of course you can't really argue with. S-i-l did usually come over and do the PM care in the last maybe three months, after DH was put on Hospice, but if he was working out-of the area or if the family was away, I would take over and do the care, even though exhausted and having trouble with the transfers by that time of night. Also in the last eight weeks or so, DD and s-i-l came over and cleaned the whole house for me. I was still watching the grands after school, and the kids plus DH who were all spilling drinks and food and making a mess were all really messing up the house. I had sold the NY house as you all know, and had purchased two houses in the Heartland--the little house for me and DH, and the big house for DD and her family. The idea was, as I've posted before, I think, that we would band together to get the children and DH cared for within the family, helping each other and keeping our money in our own pockets, instead of giving it to daycare and eldercare agencies, or the government. I would say that all in all it worked out in the end--but I could have used a lot more help than I actually got from the family. They did step up to the plate somewhat more in the last two or three weeks, when DH got extremely agitated and then slipped into a comatose state and then the final coma. They took over the children completely--stuck them in daycare and after school care--so Hospice and I could care for DH, with s-i-l coming over at night. DD even helped me with some bedside care one time at the end. (She is sooooo not the aide type.) But it was iffy…when DH died and I called s-i-l, he said he would call DD and then be right over. Well, he showed up two and a half hours later, and he never called DD. So hey. I think the truth is that if it's your spouse it's your job. Even the Hospice volunteer would give me the whole rundown of her busy schedule and commitments when she was trying to schedule in an hour to sit with DH. I felt like I was interfering with her life, and that she was doing me a huge favor. I actually asked her not to come back, but by that time DH was bad enough that I was not leaving the house for anything, so I never had to say that I felt uncomfortable with her attitude. Looking back now, I think I should have hired a little more help earlier than I did, and done a little more of the enjoyable activities that I gave up to be home all the time with DH (after work.) For instance, I should have paid his NY aide (who was always looking for more hours) to stay with him while I went down to NYC and did the Manhattan thing. I hired aides when I had to attend an out-of-town family funeral and when I had to go to Colorado to help a family member through a surgery, but I think I only hired aides one time so I could go do something fun or interesting (a harper's retreat in New Jersey), and that was a mistake--I should have done it more often . I don't regret buying the house for DD, as had anything happened to disable me, DH would have needed all our resources to care for him, and DD would have ended up with no inheritance. And DH had always made it clear that he wanted her to have a legacy. They both were in law enforcement, and that meant a lot to him. It is kind of freeing--I don't feel any compunction to conserve resources for my daughter's inheritance, as she already got it. She is talking about me setting up something for the grands, but I just laughed at her. She's obviously eyeing what estate I have left, but I'm not a complete idiot, and now I'm going to take care of me. Me. Me. Me. Yeah, and about time. Well, too much information, I suppose, but few people "get" this stuff except the folks on these forums.
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    elizabeth* Sorry I got off subject above. I meant to make the point more clearly that "friends" and most family fade away and are not even around enough to be asked for help. And if they do commit, they tend to then back down. One of my cousins asked what she could do to help…I asked if she could sit with DH so I could take some walks…she committed to two mornings per week, on her way over to work…sounded wonderful…but then she backed out, saying as we couldn't run the air conditioning in our house (made DH too cold), she would not be able to tolerate the pollen count. She had to have air conditioning or no deal.