Ok I know it is not his fault! But i am so tired of cleaning up POOP today!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has to take the laxative to keep the ammonia level down-but then he is not quick enough to get to the toilet SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-one mess after another! I just get him cleaned and we never even made it out of the bathroom and he did it again. Now this might not be so bad for some that can still even help clean themselves but he can not do any of IT. Yes I was yelling at HIM by the third time and YES I do know this does not help and YES I am sorry afterwards but I can only take so much before I blow.Do not have the patience of some. OK I may be able to get through the rest of the day-Thanks for listening
Oh Betty, I am so sorry, go ahead and scream, scream loudly .......get it all out, then deep breaths, lots of them. May I ask is this from medications (all the poop). Do you have any answers to why so much Poop? You have Poop and I have Pee. We are the Queens of Human waste disposal :) I get my gloves by the case, I think I may be single handedly filling the towns dump with pee pads and gloves. I am sorry, I hope you can get some rest.
bak, bak. poor dear. been there, i know its not easy but you have put it out there and hopefully now feel a bit of relief. i have to say they seem to have a knack for pooping again as soon as you get another depend on and in worse case scenario before you get it on. :(. its so frustrating. maybe hes taking too much laxatives? try cutting the doses in half. you can always add more. and try giving prunes and apples inbetween which help with this. sorry. but sending a hug just the same from someone who feels your distress.! queendivvi. i'm keeping the crown for now and not adding to your stress just yet, friend. :)
Please keep the crown divvi! He has to take the laxative as pres. by dr. in order to keep the ammonia level in his blood down.When it goes up he goes Downhill QUICKLEY . So we do as we are told in order to keep the confusion and other sym down. But today it seemed as though he had more POOP than anyone should EVER have!!!!!!! He has had 3 showers(which are not easy) and the last time I just cleaned him up and decided to wait before we shower again. I told him next time we were just going outside in the yard and use the water hose!(maybe a little cool) then again maybe I am the one who needs the COLD SHOWER. Terry I too buy my gloves by the case and also the adult wipes. Vickie Things have slowed down now and I am COOLING off. Just feels like the world is sitting on my shoulders and keeps me spinning round with it. Thanks for being there for me.
bak, i took a minute to read on ammonia levels and while the lactulose is rx'd for that it also says you can possibly use enemas instead to help control it??. plus high fiber diets to counteract the diarreha the lactulose will probably produce. at least with the enemas you can chose when to use it and have him in a safe spot. if you have protected bed mattress or better a hospital bed then that would be where you can do enemas. AND use the protective plastic pants over depends. if you are dealing with alot of this on a daily basis then if me, i'd call dr and report the excessive diarreha. maybe ask for alternatives inbetween so you arent pulling toilet duty so much -it gets old quickly as you know.
Oh Betty, WHY WHY WHY can we not live closer?? I would come over, help you clean the poo, and then we could go into a small room and see who could scream the loudest.
I am thankful that my car came with satellite radio and since I came of age in the 80's their channel 33 is right for me. Sometimes I just drive around the block a few times to listen to it and scream becuase even though H and I have separate areas of the house I can't make any noise. I have my music on my device and listen through earbuds.
Anyway. The poop. Carosi mentioned the confluence of the planets and I read something just yesterday about the moon, Mercury and Mars. Does it mean anything? H--- , I don't know!
Bless her heart, Divvi said I will likely not be deleted...This is gross....I hate the smell of poop. I never had children. I'm in my early 50's and am now cleaning poop?
BTW, I once asked N about lactulose as H had a constipation (sp) issue and N said no, do the prunes instead, that lactulose will, well, I can't use the words he said (he and I used to have a good and candid relationship), let's just say, "you will get more than you bargained for".
Coco we better sound proof the room!! Abby-I do not know anything about the moon or planets but if they want a volunteer to GO check them out I will be first in line. Of course they must care for Paul while I am gone,he sure can not go along-imagine trying to clean poop from a space suit!!!!!!!!! And yes the lactulose is a strong laxative but that is all we have found to keep the ammonia level down.
Bak For future reference - A rule of thumb to always keep in mind with any meds... you want to use the minimum dosage necessary to achieve the desired effect. Most MD's prescribe a dose based upon the manufacturers adults recommendations, when in reality many seniors do just fine on a pediatric dose due to reduced clearance rates (no pun intended in your situation) . Any new med prescribed for DW I start out at 50% of the prescribed dosage. You can always add the the other half, if necessary. For a little smile, it could be worse - recall the diaper pails for our kids, that was in a life before Depends and wipes. Damn those diapers where good for car polishing and washing.
nelsons that is so true. reduced clearance. my DH can only tolerate a pedi dose on just about anything- antibiotics especially. the psyche meds can turn toxic quickly.
bak i did read that the lactolose also somehow curtails the ammonia within the intestines so thats probably why dr didnt give you another option. but do let him know diarreha is not an option all the time.
When I have days like this I go out and beat up the green waste trash can..it is heavy rubber so it won't break and I won't break my hands...and I beat and kick it senseless! We hear ya..loud and clear..vent away baby!
Betty quick question.....where are you getting the wipes in bulk? I live my life on pee patrol :) Had to remove furniture from his bedroom where he was peeing on it ......marking his territory??? This has unsettled him or we are beginning some type of Sundowning ...........my thought "OH S**T" . Been using an 1/2 ativan and 10mg melatonin and he sleeps once I finally get him to bed. Doesn't this all just suck!
My hats off to you all that can handle the pee and poop detail. You got more going for you then I do. Your reward will be coming....what a blessing your mates have such great caregivers.
i dont know about marking territory, but it sounds quite feasible?? :) but beware if you have the peeing going on, and not in a toilet and have pets.. well they will find the territory and REMARK it with their own. thats was a huge issue with my chihuahuas when DH was mobile. judith you will be surprised at what one can handle when face to face with a do or die scenario.
haha. terry and bak heres a bit of consolation for you. everyone was saying back a few years when i was going thru what you both are, that some 'me' time was a good thing. i decided, yes, i need that, so i decided to take a hot bubble bath. lovely. candles lit, and a glass of wine on the side of jacuzzi. hot towel over face relax and steaming. wonderful. felt something odd, took towel off and DH was standing at edge of tub peeing on my head. i would say THAT was marking his territory.. grin. !!!!
so yes in the scheme of things, it can get worse. so lets focus on getting thru this part as best you can = it wont last forever. divvi
Divvi, that has made me laugh from my toes. As I leave work now to go home and find what new and exciting places hubby may have mark ..........thanks for giving me the laugh of the day. So Divvi you have given me something to be grateful for (no dogs) and the biggest laugh of my day (your story) As the saying goes .....you my dear are priceless. Thanks
there are no words to describe what i felt when i saw him peeing on my head. shock is what you first feel. . who would have thought anything like this could cross their minds.? he was showing me his disapproval that i left him for some 'me' time obviously.. . well i ducked under the water, what else!!! HA. egads. yes jean sure fire way to go thru a bottle of shampoo. first off i had to let all the water out *(ugh) and start over! oh my, those were the days of sheer madness trying to stay one step ahead of a moving urinal. so bak and terry, cheer up. you can see you are not alone. there are many going thru this but for obvious reasons probably wont post it here. at least for those dear souls who arent ranting here with us but are having to clean up messes and trying to stay sane, know we feel for you and you arent alone!
ps jean you know in prehistoric days they tanned the skins and bleached them using urine! they let the skins sit in it for long times and it made them soft and pliable and bleached them to a lovely blonde. hahaha. maybe you are on to something. hehe
bluedaze, if i recall it was the closing argument that won me the Queen title i wear today. :) and oh boy there were many.
Betty, sorry you are dealing with all that poop. Ugh. I know what it's like. When DH is out of control, he'll wear diapers, but they don't always hold everything in!
Divvi, that is one of those hilarious stories that gets funnier with time ... but when it was happening, must have been horrendous!
ms. magic-Divvi's husband also peed down a three story atrium in their house-all over the artwork. I'm still waiting for her book to be written and published.
You folks bring back bad memories. The problem my DW had was a side effect of Aricept. I have been where you are. Walmart, the back seat of the car, In our bedroom. You name it. I feel sorry for you, because at the time my DW was having the problem, I didn't know about this website so I just tried to hide the problem from others. That didn't work very well either.
I remember the reporting when Divvi's dh peed down the 3 story atrium. When I heard that I really didn't know if it was true or not. I was laughing when I read it, but I knew it really wasn't a laughing matter.
OH absolutely Divvi amazing! No its not a laughing matter but the TELLING of it is hilarious. I kept thinking SOMETHING is wrong with that dog..He keeps going in DH's room peeing on things!! He KNOWS not to pee in the house! THE BATHTUB 'scene' among some of the others mentioned are prize winners for sure! DH was sick recently and I was following him around his room with a potty chair trying to plead with him to just SIT 'here'..and a few steps later..just SIT 'here'... no PLEASE SIT HERE! I wish I could report that it helped! Thanks to all of you for being here
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Oh dear, every time I am away from here for a few days and all the fun begins. Haha. This topic is dear to my heart ... I had three babies and it was a piece of cake compared to a six-foot man. In the last year I have replaced the carpet with vinyl, his bed and his chair, all in his bedroom due to so much urine. At least his relatively poor mobility keeps it contained to there and the bathroom where I have had to scrape poop off nearly all surfaces. It is funny how you think you have it all and later you are doing something and from a different angle you see more.....I wanna come in that sound proof room also.
nelsons, while those bidets are fabulous ideas we have had a discussion about the bidet use previously and some opted for these. they say they are great. in some of our cases, my DH was so frightened by the sound and feel of water shooting on him he wouldnt even sit. i can imagine a drying machine.. grin. i HAVE a bidet. it was always an issue to try to get him to be comfortable with the feel of warm water shooting up at him.. haha. but yes if they arent frightened by it its a great idea. most of us have issues getting them to sit on a Regular commode. :(
Divvi, I know it isn't funny but I had to laugh at your being in the tub and wondering what was wet on your head. One early morning, I was on the floor mopping up urine so that I could get Gord out of the bathroom and back into bed. I too felt something falling on my head and realized that he was now peeing on me. I was incensed even though I knew he couldn't help it. Bak, my heart goes out to you. Only those who have been through this or are going through it can understand. I remember not knowing where to start to clean up the poop. Hang in there.
Last night was one of those nights where he was too weak to get up to pee, so he woke me up every two hours to bring him the urinal and hold it for him. Ugh. But at least he didn't wet the bed. :) Because there is almost nothing worse than doing laundry and changing sheets at 3 a.m. -- especially when you have to get up for work around 5!
No REAL NON AD PEOPLE would believe the stories we would put in a book!!! Somedays even I don't believe all the things that CAN and DO happen.I still find myself hoping I will wake up one morning and find this has all been A MIGHTMARE!!!! ms.magic-hope you get more sleep tonight.
About this pee stuff...unless the LO has an infection I understand that urine is sterile.. Ya I know this is no help but at least ...oh well.... Peeing on your head..ol lord have mercy!