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    • CommentAuthorNorthstar
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     
    Well I just thought I would give you an update. It has been over a month now since JR went into care. He is one and a half hours away from me. I manage to get in about 3 times a week on average and some weeks 4 or 5 times.
    I am finding it so hard to see him like this, he is not eating and not able to feed himself anymore. He is completly dependant on a care aid for all aspects of his daily care. They tie him into the wheelchair or he slips out. Right now the only thing keeping him alive are the protien shakes we feed him. we don't know why he won't eat, he just chooses not to and clamps his mouth shut if you try and get food into it. He still knows me most of the time but there is very little conversation. he does say hello and yes and no. When I say I love you he will try to say it back but it is usually just love or you. It just seems to get worse every day. The Dr's have done many tests and can not find anyting wrong aside from AD. My heart just breaks a bit more every day. This is just so hard for him and in turn for our children and I, last night he grabbed his hair and said please take me home! so hard to not feel quilty for not doing just that. Even knowing there is no way I could do the lifting or any of the other care that requires an electrical lift.
    I am just rambling now, I am so very sad and lonely.
    Pls take care all
    Kathy
    • CommentAuthorJane*
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     
    Kathy,
    It would appear that since he is refusing to eat he has entered the final stages, that being said, could you ask for hospice care, they would make sure he is comfortable.
    You say you could not care for him with the care that requires an electrical lift. I am wondering about that for myself, can this not be done at home? Tell me what you know about the lifts and why they cannot be used in the home.
    • CommentAuthorAdmin
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    Kathy,

    Please do not feel guilty. You have enough heartache to deal with without adding that to the mix. Know that you have done the best you possibly could for your husband, and he is getting the best care possible.

    By all means, call Hospice. From what I have heard at conferences and in my support group, they are fantastic. They can get things done in a snap of the fingers, and they make sure your LO is comfortable with all they need.

    My thoughts are with you.

    joang
    • CommentAuthorpat
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    Kathy,
    Lots of hugs to you and your family. This is such a hard and lonely time for you. But know that when you placed your LO there, it was for all the right reasons and above all, because you had to. Now may God give you strength in this AD journey and comfort you in all decisions. Yes, we had to experience hospice w/ three family member and they are so awesome in their care for our LO'S.
    PAT
    • CommentAuthordarlene
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    Kathy,
    Please call hospice to help you. They are wonderful. I was having trouble with the home Ralph was in as they kept wanting to add more meds to control him. The hospice doctor is wonderful and we are trying to get control of the meds.
    I did finally move Ralph to another home. He was on the waiting list at the home I wanted him in and a place came available. It was a tough move for him and me, but I know it was the right move to make. He too has failed with the moves and I feel so guilty, but know I cannot bring him home. He can hardly walk now. My daughter has been here from Florida since December.She leaves on Saturday, so I am in a panic right now about being alone. I feel your pain and wish I could be there to help you.
    Placing them in a home does take a toil on our LO, but we do what we have to do for them and for you. It does take a long time for them to adjust, so I pray he will be better with time.
    My love and prayers.
    Darlene
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    Dearest Kathy: I know. My DH was tied into a wheelchair in a locked down mental facility. And he had enough awareness to whisper 'take me home.' God, how many times can you take this, how many times can they? Kathy, feel bad, cry and rage, but hold back the guilt, none of this is your fault. I used to wish that it was my fault, then I could undo it, but all we can do is love them and hug ourselves. I have tears in my eyes as I write--you are not alone in this--compassion and understanding are being sent your way.
    • CommentAuthorkay kay
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008 edited
     
    Dear Kathy, Just reading your post today, I can feel the sadness and loneliness you are feeling.

    Nine mos. ago, I had to make the same painful decision to place my DH into a NH. I also felt the Guilt, Sadness and Loneliness you are feeling. It is very hard for our LO's to adjust to their new environment. The first 4 mos. were a disaster for us. We had to go to Neuropsych 2 times in those mos. He was very combative and it took at least 2 CNA's to help him with his care. He would bang on the door to come home, etc. But, as the mos. went by, he started to adjust and now he is doing quite well. My husband has now entered a place with Alz. where I believe, he thinks that he is home. He no longer asks me to take him home. He is also out of the Special Care Locked Unit as he no longer walks and it not a flight risk any longer. He is on pureed foods and there has to be 2 people there in the transfer with the Hoyer Lifts as he tries to stand up sometimes and they are afraid he will fall out.

    This has been and is still very hard for me, even though I know that I did the best I could in the situation. I miss him terribly all the time and their was one time right after I put him in the NH that I was going to go back and get him. My daughter talked me out of this and said "Mom, please give it a little more time". I did and now I am glad I waited. She knew that there was no way I could take care of her Dad at home any longer.

    I still feel "Guilt" about having to place him, but, I also realize that there is no way I could take care of him and give him the type of care he is getting now with the Doctors, Nurses, Dieticians, Activities Directors, etc., 24/7 care. There is not one waking minute that I do not miss him being with me and feel the sadness that goes along with this disease. But, I also know that I Love him very much and always will. He is my prince and I will do everything I can to make him as comfortable and happy as I possibly can. Whether he is in a NH or not, I am still his Care Giver and always will be. Since I do not work, I spend at least 3 or so hours a day with him.

    Bettyhere is right that you can feel bad, cry and rage, but, realize that none of this is your fault. I am sending you a "Big Hug" to let you know that I do feel what you are going through and know your pain. Take care and my prayers are with you and your husband in this period. Kay Kay
    • CommentAuthorkay kay
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    Hi Jane,

    I know alot about the Hoyer Lifts, as they have to use one now to transfer my husband to and from his wheelchair.

    Yes, these lifts can be purchased from Medical Supply businesses. They also can be used at home. My husband's room at the NH is not that large, but, they still wheel the lift in there and pick him up. The only thing that we have to be careful of is that my husband is 6'1" tall and he tends to put his legs on the base of the lift and when he does that causes the swing chair on the lift to fall forward. We are afraid that he will fall out, so, there has to be 2 people there at all times when he is transferred. One holds his legs up and swings the chair around, while the other one operates the lift. Some people can do the transfer with only one Care Giver. It is just according to the person you are transferring. At first, my DH did not like the lifts. He tried to hold onto the side of the chair and get out while he was being transferred. It was kind of scary for me, but, the CNA's are all professionals and they know how to get through this. Now, he does not mind it all that much.

    There are electrical and manual lifts. Look them up on the internet under "Hoyer Lifts" and you will see many different kinds and different prices. These lifts are really good as you can get them in and out of their wheelchair and out of bed a lot easier without the fear of them falling and breaking something, or the caregiver hurting themselves in the transfer. My husband is taken in and out of his wheelchair and his bed about 4 or 5 times a day as they do not like to leave them sitting in a wheelchair or laying in bed too long at a time. Their skin tends to break down and the NH I have my DH in, is very cautious of this, which is very good.

    Hope this information helps you out. Kay Kay
    • CommentAuthorJane*
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    Kay Kay,
    Thank you so much for your offer of help. I am concerned about my husband because all he wants to do here at home is sit. He is not in a wheel chair but when I try to get him to get up and walk it is only a few minutes until he is sitting again. I have to walk him in order for him to walk. You say that they do not want them to sit in a wheel chair too long and to me sitting here at home is also not good. I wonder what I could be doing differently that would help. I am beginning to think we may not be far from being unable to walk without assistance, really he I guess would be considered that way now because he will not walk unless I am causing him to. I wonder if I will be able to use one of the lifts by myself, I am all there is there are not two people here to do this. HELP
    • CommentAuthorkay kay
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008 edited
     
    Jane,
    Concerning your husband sitting for long periods of time in a chair. Yes, it is the same situation that I have, so, I will try and give you some suggestions that nurses, etc. have given me over the last year.

    When my husband broke his hip in Sept. of last year, he had to lay flat on his back when he was in the bed for six weeks, as they did not want him to try and cross his legs if he was to turn on his side. Since his heals were always on the bed, they put some soft, overstuffed looking house shoes on him. This way his heals did not get sore. They also propped him up with pillows on different parts of his body, so, that he did not lay constantly in one position. Every two hours they would go in and do this. He can move himself around in bed now, so, this is no longer a problem. His nurse in the hospital, that took care of him while he was there for 5 days with his broken hip, told me that if he is confined to a wheelchair, please watch his skin very closely and make sure it was not breaking down. She suggested if he was confined to a wheelchair, get him one of those chair pads that people use when they have trouble with hemmoriods. Usually it is made of foam rubber and it has a hole in the middle. This way they do not sit directly on the chair constantly. She said that re-positioning is also something that needs to be done. Jane, at least getting him up and making him walk some also helps, but, I know how hard that is, because I went through the same thing with my husband.

    Alot of people use the lifts by themselves. It is just that my husband is tall and has long legs, so, when he straightens his legs out and lodges them against the Hoyer Lift bar, it makes the lift chair go forward and he starts to slip out. This is why they have a note over his bed "2 person transfer". Another thing also, most NH do not want the liability if someone falls out of the lift, etc. so, they take extra precautions to make sure this does not happen. There are alot of the residents that only need one person to do this transfer with the lift. At first, I believe my husband was afraid of being lifted with the Hoyer and the higher he got, the more he wanted out. But, it is now much better and he does not fight it as much now. Jane, if you get a chance, I would go to a medical supply store and let them show you the different lifts and give you an idea of how they work. You will feel much more comfortable that way. You should be just fine doing the transfer yourself, once you see the lifts and can see how they operate, you will feel much better and you will see that they are not that hard to operate. I believe I would look into the electrical lifts if I was doing it by myself.

    If there is anything else that you have questions on, please let me know. I get so much help and support from this web-site and all the wonderful people on it, that I also want to try and give something back. Take Care

    Kay Kay
    • CommentAuthorNorthstar
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2008
     
    Hello Everyone , thanks for your kind words and support. I wish we had hospice, we do not have it in our area,. We do have what they call palliative care. But where we are it is just a bed or room in the small hospital. So my DH is fine where he is. I just wish that he was closer to me so I could run up after work. the distance is a real killer.
    he sounded pretty good on the phone today and I will see him tomorrow.
    Jane the lift I use at the home is called a sabina lift. It is electric and works very well, takes them to a standing position, they also use a lift that is attached to the ceiling to transfer him from the bed to his big chair, I could not afford to buy the lifts or the care that would be needed in our home. And I really do know that he is getting the care he needs.
    I am really curious to why he has chosen not to eat, seems so strange to me. He will drink the shakes and that is about it. Once in a while I can get some ice cream and fruit into him but not often.
    He is lucky to have one of those mattress' that is electric and lets air in and out to avoid bed sores. we also put an electric chair in his room for reclining and heat and vibrate. He still spends hours listening to music and watching TV in his room. He struggles with holding his coffee cup or glass, so most things are in a travel mug now.
    thanks again for all your support, it truly helps
    Kathy